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10/23/2025 4:14 pm  #11


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

First we voted for expansion.

Now we can act like Democrats & Republicans and go to war, b*tching, drawing lines in the sand, and trying to circumvent what's been voted on. Or we can be progressives and finally come up with innovative solutions. If the majority didn't vote for expansion everything would have been status quo for seasons. I say we use this new found energy to push ideas forward.

My internal solution for closers is while not punting saves, I'm not going to sacrifice my ratios anymore for them. I'll just continue to accumulate offensive weapons in the meantime. If we add a combined Saves/Holds cat, I'll adjust. QS, I'll adjust. Change & roster turnover are a part of pro life.   

Now the minority can dissect and quibble over everything I said, which isn't going to change to vote. Or we can grab a few zoom/team calls and collaborate. I bet we can come up with unique and awesome ideas, and maybe even some solutions.


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10/24/2025 8:37 am  #12


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

Ok I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think I agree with CJ 🤦‍♂️

Ok not on everything. But mostly on the “let’s make decision and we’ll all adjust” part. IP limit change?  We’ll adjust. More SP or not?  We’ll adjust. Just saves or SV/HLD? We’ll adjust. Expand or not?  Again we will adjust. Prospect stashing rules?  Same thing. This league will figure out ways to work with whatever rules we set.

Now, we need to make those decisions.  And thoughtfully. But we’ll handle it.

Now, on the adding holds part, I’m against that one. I know CL have crazy value here. Adding holds removes all value from the RP role IMO. I checked the stats for this season. 30 guys had 10+ saves. 108 guys had 10+ Holds. I think that removes the value for all the RP. No trade value at least. I could just pick up another guy who can get me more holds instead of having to trade for someone. Kind of like in the MLB where getting that CL costs a lot. Take the Phillies getting Duran this year. They gave up their #2 SP prospect and their top C prospect to get him. It costs a lot.

That’s just my $0.02 on that one topic. Overall I feel like we just need to set our rules and we will figure it out.

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10/24/2025 9:24 am  #13


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

I've thrown a lot of cents out on changes so I'll drop some more change in the cup.

On league changes overall, I think we keep saying we will figure it out, but we don't. Some of these issues have been brought up ad nauseum, but since I've joined the league the only vote I've really seen has been on expansion which had the least amount of discussion of any of the items. I'm not arguing against expansion but let's just say I'm not filled with faith that we will make any additional changes.

As to the closer issue. I'm for doing something about it. I like adding holds to saves because I think it takes down closer hoarding, which is a legit strategy at this point and actually makes other relievers valuable other than holding them hoping they become a closer. I'm also for either in tandem or instead of adding 2 SP slots, which I think reduces closer hoarding as well.

 

10/24/2025 5:00 pm  #14


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

Let's do this. I'm going to create an agenda post. We will form an agenda to discuss over a Zoom/Teams call. We may not fix everything, but its a good starting point to flesh out agenda topics.

Does anyone have a corporate/business account we can use? This will take longer then the typical 30 minute session.


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10/28/2025 3:28 pm  #15


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

I don't get the suggestion of lowering the IP limit. If most of the league was hitting the limit in early September, there'd be an argument for increasing it. But the fact that no one reaches it (hooli was the closest), to me, means it's a solid limit.

 

10/29/2025 7:06 am  #16


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

Fair question. IMO, and I’m quite open to receiving education on this topic, could reduce streaming and increase SP. We often hit position player cap. You can cheat a tad, squeezing 163 games a player, but generally 162 per player. What we have with pitchers is sorta like having a games played cap set at 180 games. I believe this inning cap was set arbitrarily, it’s too high, so tweak and lower it some.


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10/29/2025 9:37 am  #17


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

Stepping Razor wrote:

Fair question. IMO, and I’m quite open to receiving education on this topic, could reduce streaming and increase SP. We often hit position player cap. You can cheat a tad, squeezing 163 games a player, but generally 162 per player. What we have with pitchers is sorta like having a games played cap set at 180 games. I believe this inning cap was set arbitrarily, it’s too high, so tweak and lower it some.

I’m going to play a little devils advocate here. Everything in our league (and most leagues) just comes down to finding a strategy you think works. Take your approach this past year of not chasing all CL, but going for ratio guys from MR. Just a different approach.

So with the high IP limit, you can certainly choose to stream to try and get close to that limit. It would help your K and potentially your W totals. But could also hurt your ratios based on the quality of SP you stream. So it’s risk/reward that you need to decide. Could work for you or not. Or you could choose to have a set group of SP that offer good ratios and give up on the extra K & W potential.

So I’m not sure it matters. If it can be exploited this league will find ways to do it.

All that said, this one isn’t a hill I would die on either way personally

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10/29/2025 5:42 pm  #18


Re: Issues list from expansion discussion

Agreed. I'd like to have it lower, but I'm not willing to shutdown the government over it lol! 


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