Preseason Champs wrote:

I'll throw out a rule change proposal: If a minors guy is called up a team has 2 weeks to bring him up. If he exceeds the 2 weeks, then another team is welcome to pick him up and add them to their major league roster. And then if a player ends the year in the majors, but ends the year on your minors roster, that player becomes available for teams to draft in the preseason draft. The exception being if a guy is brought up on the last day od the season. 

Id volunteer to keep track of this for Clint.

I’m 100% in on this. And would be willing to help track this as well

Stepping Razor wrote:

Preseason Champs wrote:

I'll throw out a rule change proposal: If a minors guy is called up a team has 2 weeks to bring him up. If he exceeds the 2 weeks, then another team is welcome to pick him up and add them to their major league roster. And then if a player ends the year in the majors, but ends the year on your minors roster, that player becomes available for teams to draft in the preseason draft. The exception being if a guy is brought up on the last day od the season. 

Id volunteer to keep track of this for Clint.

Two weeks sounds good. My adjustments:

September call ups don’t count

An announcement by the commissioner or rep before you go pillaging someone’s roster

Two weeks regardless of the final rules on it I support.

If September call ups count in real baseball they should count here. All not making them count does is insulate people from making hard decisions down the stretch. You want to make the league more challenging September call ups count just the same.

My thoughts on announcements, I'm fine with making/pinning a thread to announce call ups and when the clock starts, but it should be on you to police your own roster, not count on someone to announce when you are about to lose a player because you either aren't paying attention or are stashing them. No one here should have to be someone else's oh shit button.

There's a lot to unpack on this thread.

Let's start with expansion. First, let's ignore all of the details and timing, I know that a lot of you guys have concerns about losing players from your rosters, which is exactly why I've made such a big deal about it. Because it is a big deal. But let's ignore all of that for right now. Are we even willing to discuss expansion? Because spending more time debating it or working through potential rules for doing it is kind of pointless if you guys don't even like the concept of expansion.

So, with that said, are we interested in the CONCEPT of expansion? Not the precise rules or ways or timing that we'd go about doing it. Do we want to discuss it at all?

Bird wrote:

Preseason Champs wrote:

My thoughts on announcements, I'm fine with making/pinning a thread to announce call ups and when the clock starts, but it should be on you to police your own roster, not count on someone to announce when you are about to lose a player because you either aren't paying attention or are stashing them. No one here should have to be someone else's oh shit button.

The problem with not making an announcement is that between work and life, it's easy to miss that one of your taxi squad guys has gotten called up for the third time in a given season. If we wanted to enforce this new rule, we'd need to find an adequate way to track it and communicate it. 

I'm totally onboard with an announcement thread to say when a prospects clock starts and update if they get sent back down. I'll do the tracking on that, Ken volunteered to help but I'm also fine with doing the heavy lifting. To give an example I'd post it as something like "Zac Veen has been called up on 4/1 Preseason Champs has until 4/15 to roster him before he is eligible to be added by another team" and then id make a similar post if the player gets sent back down before then to reset the clock.

What I don't want to see is guys just leaving guys on their minors roster the full two weeks because they know someone will announce when the time is up and they will then get to move them up. It takes the teeth out of enforcement and enables bad behavior.

I'll admit, I'm not as active of an owner as I should be. I set my lineup every day but I don't make the frequent moves like some of you. But each season's ending is an opportunity to get things back in gear. I've finally decided to stop treading water and looking for a rebuild. Hence some of my in-season trades this year.

But enough about me. I want to add some of my thoughts. I agree with what a lot of you have said. I like the limiting of time before you are forced to promote a minor leaguer. It will get us to stay on top of things and make things more interesting if you exceed the limit and the guy becomes free to be picked up. I can't wait for those arguments, which presumably will fall to Clint and Bill. 

My personal stance is I'm all for changes and probably lean towards doing them too quickly. But we've essentially been the same league for years now with occasional changes to GMs. I feel each of those changes has worked out for the better and builds some more excitement. I also feel the game of fantasy baseball as our league currently plays it has drifted a little too far from how the real life game has been played for years. Fewer SPs going longer in games in favor of fire-breathing relievers. More hitters becoming a little more 3-true outcome (or 2-true outcome for guys like my boy Nolan Gorman).

Here are my proposals for changes. I know you've all thrown out a lot. If this is duplicate, I apologize.

I agree with the expansion idea. A lot of what I read makes it feel like 15 teams has become a bit of a standard size for roto. I'd be in favor of adding some new GMs.

I'm fine with reducing max IP but I'm not necessarily in favor of forcing more SP usage. As I mentioned, that's just not how the game is played anymore. My proposal would be to change the W category to W/QS (or something newer as I know both those stats can have their flaws) and Saves to SV/HLD, if possible. I think it opens us up to whole new strategies. Like CJ mentioning going after ratios now. With a different setup, maybe we target more than that and make our pitching situations more competitive with each other.

On the offensive side, I propose replacing AVG with OBP. This one really feels like us holding onto a relic that real life teams really don't care about anymore.

I'm sure I'll think of more stuff as soon as I post this but I have definitely pestered Bill about those category changes many times before, lol.