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lol touché.
a little expansion makes all the things we already love… FA moves, drafts, trades, finding hidden gems…carry even more weight. Every decision would matter more, keeping us sharper and making roster building even more rewarding… and also probably lessening our transaction totals as you’d have a lesser chance of getting back the guy you drop thinking you’ll have a high percentage chance of getting him back…. Making some moves that would have happened… never happen. At least in my brain as I know I’d over analyze more than I already do
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Bird, if you could set up a poll I bet the league would recommend you approve expansion to 14 teams. It's time.
Mookie, could you post the logistics of what you did for the football league so we can dissect it please?
Everything else I believe we can still discuss and debate?
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My 2 cents on all of this +:
- No problem with expansion. Mookie's method of running the expansion draft is fine. I'd also suggest the expansion teams get auto first/2nd picks in the preseason and FYPD for the year they join, just so they get a chance to catch up and be competitive.
- If we are going to do expansions, I think we need to set some hard rules about keeping milb players on the bench after they've been up for a little while. Like if a guy is up in the majors for 3 or more weeks and he is on your milb roster, he immediately hits waivers. And if a guy ends the season on a major league roster but you have him on your milb roster, he immediately gets added to the preseason draft. I watched a ton of guys just get stashed most of the year on milb rosters only getting moved up for the FYPD.
- I don't have any concerns with the IP cap. I think 1300 is a good start. Though I'm not 100% sure it does anything to truly impact stats, I think it will just long term change some strategy about streaming pitchers.
- I'm with Mookie on being against an overall transaction cap, but I think a weekly transaction cap might add some strategy to league. It would certainly cut down on the picking guys up just to drop them when you have to worry about having enough transactions to cover for injured guys.
-For the trade deadline I have no strong feelings either way on having one or not. That said if we do end up with one, I would personally have it just be on mlb trades. Picks and milb guys could be traded all throughout the year, so it is like real baseball.
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I did a quick history search. Very rarely do we get a team getting over the 100 tran threeshold. When someone crosses it, its only one team. Eye test each team average around 40ish. This season was the nearest we had two teams get close, me with 170 & Mookie with 96. Also Mookie and I annually lead the league in transcations.
I think 100 is a fair round number. Won't effect anyone but the most ardent hardcore streamer.
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Stepping Razor wrote:
I did a quick history search. Very rarely do we get a team getting over the 100 tran threeshold. When someone crosses it, its only one team. Eye test each team average around 40ish. This season was the nearest we had two teams get close, me with 170 & Mookie with 96. Also Mookie and I annually lead the league in transcations.
I think 100 is a fair round number. Won't effect anyone but the most ardent hardcore streamer.
Thanks for doing that research CJ. If it rarely happens then it feels like it’s not really worth creating a limit or rule for it. Most teams don’t get close to it, so why regulate it?
And with 2 new teams there will be even less value on the WW, so I doubt there will be as much churn.
I’d vote we don’t put in a limit and just do the right thing about not adding a dropping a guy to avoid someone else picking them up (plus taking it easy on Clint lol)
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Because if we don't have a rule, someone will eventually exploit it, ala when somebody in football adds and drops all the kickers the day before. Better to be prepared then being caught with the panties down. The new younger guys might come with a different strategy.
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My 2 cents on all of this +:
- No problem with expansion. Mookie's method of running the expansion draft is fine. I'd also suggest the expansion teams get auto first/2nd picks in the preseason and FYPD for the year they join, just so they get a chance to catch up and be competitive.
- If we are going to do expansions, I think we need to set some hard rules about keeping milb players on the bench after they've been up for a little while. Like if a guy is up in the majors for 3 or more weeks and he is on your milb roster, he immediately hits waivers. And if a guy ends the season on a major league roster but you have him on your milb roster, he immediately gets added to the preseason draft. I watched a ton of guys just get stashed most of the year on milb rosters only getting moved up for the FYPD.
- I don't have any concerns with the IP cap. I think 1300 is a good start. Though I'm not 100% sure it does anything to truly impact stats, I think it will just long term change some strategy about streaming pitchers.
- I'm with Mookie on being against an overall transaction cap, but I think a weekly transaction cap might add some strategy to league. It would certainly cut down on the picking guys up just to drop them when you have to worry about having enough transactions to cover for injured guys.
-For the trade deadline I have no strong feelings either way on having one or not. That said if we do end up with one, I would personally have it just be on mlb trades. Picks and milb guys could be traded all throughout the year, so it is like real baseball.
I'm way behind on this but echo PSC ideas.
Looks like a blueprint for success all the way around IMO.
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Sorry it took me awhile to post this, I had a shitty week. This is how our dynasty football ran expansion and I added in parentheses hypothetical of what we’d do.
Football Expansion Draft Rules (Baseball adjustments probably needed in parentheses)
1. Roster Percentage
Each expansion team will draft 70% of a full roster. This number is based on the total roster size required to be legal in the league. Expansion teams will not draft a full roster but will instead receive additional opportunities to build out the rest of their team after the draft.
(JTL, that would mean 21 players from the 30 player MLB side, and a separate MiLB draft for 14 players from the 20-man minor league side. Numbers can be adjusted obviously by what we are ok with)
2. Draft Pool
All players not on a team’s protected list are eligible to be drafted. Each current team may protect a set number of players prior to the draft. Once the draft pool is finalized, expansion teams may only select from that pool.
(JTL, protections would be split into two categories… maybe 10-15 MLB players and 5-7 MiLB players? As we’d need to create two separate draft pools for the two drafts)
3. Free Agent Period
After the expansion draft concludes, each expansion team will be granted a specific window of time to complete their roster through free agent acquisitions. This window is long enough to allow planning but not indefinite. The expectation is that each new team is roster complete prior to the regular season.
(for JTL this would apply to both MLB and MiLB rosters, with a clear deadline set sometime before our preseason MLB draft)
4. Progressive Protection and Cooling Off
If a player is drafted from a team, that team immediately gains the right to protect an additional player from their roster.
In addition, once a player is taken from a team, that franchise is exempt from losing another player for a set number of picks.
(JTL, this rule would apply in both the MLB and MiLB expansion drafts. Helps prevent one roster from being gutted too quickly and maintains balance… I think football we went with 3-4 picks, but I can’t remember that part)
5. Draft Format & Team Loss Limits
The expansion draft will be conducted in snake draft format. Expansion teams will alternate selections.
To maintain competitive balance, no single existing team may lose more than a set number of players. Once that threshold is reached, their roster is closed to expansion picks.
Expansion teams would get picks 1 and 2 in reverse order to how snake draft picks started.
(for us, we’d likely cap this at 3-5 MLB players and 2-3 MiLB players maximum taken from each franchise. Expansion teams would also be awarded the first selections in the following 2-3 year’s MLB FA drafts and MiLB drafts, depending on commish thoughts).
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This plan looks solid 👍🏼
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I don't have any issues with expansion, I just want to make sure that everyone is on board for what it will mean for everyone's individual teams. Likely, the expansion rules would allow for each of the expansion teams to draft 24 players for an MLB roster, so a total of 48 or 4 each from the 12 existing teams. MiLB could be a little less because there are many unowned players out there, so they'd each probably draft 12 players, for a total of 24, or 2 from each team.
So, with expansion, everyone would lose 4 Yahoo players and 2 minor league players.
Again, I don't have an issue with this but I don't want anyone to be surprised of what it will mean for your individual team.
Drafts would be done in rounds, with a certain number of protected players to start and additional players eligible to be protected after each round. Expansion teams would be required to choose from each existing team in each round, meaning that you wouldn't lose all four players in round one, you'd lose a player in each round.